Curse

Clarissa F · Apr 28, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

The devs have already said HoM won't get you anything to give you an advantage in the game, just e-peen like maybe elite armor or weapons skins. No Sword of a Thousand Truths.

romeus petrus · Apr 28, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Toxage

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

Titles will have a huge impact on Guild Wars 2. The titles you get in Guild Wars will give you access to special weapons, armor, companions, cheaper merchant items, and a few other bonuses.

lol

If this s true (which it's not), then it's gg GW2 before it even comes out.

Anet will NEVER make any of these grind based titles have any real impact on GW2 because that would turn away all the new players.

Mr. Undisclosed · Apr 28, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Its Toxage, everyone should know to just ignore him. I doubt the HoM will have as big of an impact as he says.

Toxage · Apr 28, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

If you choose to refuse to accept for reality for what it is then........

Why do you think they designed HOM?

To give bonuses in GW2.

I highly doubt Arena Net will change the multiple areas of GW2 which provide bonuses for GW titles.

Master Knightfall · Apr 28, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I'm with Toxage I'm pretty sure those HOM tapestries aren't there just for looks and a tie-in to GW2 just for cosmetics sake. It's a reward for playing GW origional and buying GWEN don't forget. So, if you didn't buy EOTN then you won't get any bonuses and don't come crying online when you don't. You have plenty of time to buy and play EOTN/GWEN and do most everything.

I have no doubt though there will be big surprises day of release and there will be 100's crying and whinning like they usually do right here on this board.

Clarissa F · Apr 28, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Toxage, go read what Jeff, Mike and all the guys in charge of MAKING the game have said about the HoM and titles in GW2 before launching into hyperbole. An article in PC Gamer, a few on the GW official website...hell, Google it. Do some research. You've played this game for over two years, yet never read about it?

Toxage · Apr 28, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F

Toxage, go read what Jeff, Mike and all the guys in charge of MAKING the game have said about the HoM and titles in GW2 before launching into hyperbole. An article in PC Gamer, a few on the GW official website...hell, Google it. Do some research. You've played this game for over two years, yet never read about it?

LOL

You must be new here, let me fill you in.

Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain all said Guild Wars would be centered around PvP. Guild Wars is currently center around PvE.

Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain said that Guild Wars would have no grinding. Look at Sunspear/EOTN rep grind which give powerful PvE bonuses to mindless grinding.

Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain have changed their minds numerous times.

Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain plan on giving titles in Guild Wars 2 huge bonuses. Which is why they added them to Guild Wars 2!

Stop living under a rock, thanks <3

The Red Messenger · Apr 28, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

Grind will always be in MMOs.

In GW, its optional.

Nobody said you CANT grind, just that you dont have to.

Its the nature of the genre...when you run out of stuff to do, you end up grinding or moving on to a different game.

I like it just the way it is

Mr. Undisclosed · Apr 28, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

I'm with Toxage I'm pretty sure those HOM tapestries aren't there just for looks and a tie-in to GW2 just for cosmetics sake. It's a reward for playing GW origional and buying GWEN don't forget. So, if you didn't buy EOTN then you won't get any bonuses and don't come crying online when you don't. You have plenty of time to buy and play EOTN/GWEN and do most everything.

I have no doubt though there will be big surprises day of release and there will be 100's crying and whinning like they usually do right here on this board.

Never said they were there just for looks. The devs said it won't be anything that grants advatages over other players. I believe them over Toxage, tbh I'd believe anyone over Toxage :x

Free Runner · Apr 28, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by Toxage

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

Titles will have a huge impact on Guild Wars 2. The titles you get in Guild Wars will give you access to special weapons, armor, companions, cheaper merchant items, and a few other bonuses.

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain plan on giving titles in Guild Wars 2 huge bonuses. Which is why they added them to Guild Wars 2!

I'm pretty damn amazed. I've seen people attempt to show that they know more about Guild Wars 2 than Arena Net however this guy takes the award.

Bring back Zinger.

Leighwyn · Apr 28, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Prior to the introduction of titles (and most of the grind), I enjoyed playing through the game with each character class because that's what there was to do...the game steered me toward that path and I followed it. I also did my fair share of TA and HA because it was fun to try and achieve a long win streak (TA) or win Halls (HA).

Since titles, I've felt compelled to play only with one of my characters, as the majority are not account-based. Obiviously, I recognize that I haven't been forced into doing so. As many have said, the majority of these things are completely optional. But when I see a progress bar, with a number attached to it, I feel compelled to fill it up. To me, it's a new goal (though one that requires extreme repetition to achieve) instead of a new flavor of the same goal (e.g. new profession with the same campaign)

The end result for me? My other characters have barely even left Tyria. I've never really experimented with any of the four new classes. I'm forced to use a PvP character for almost every class, which to me is a less "personal" experience if you get my meaning.

Sure, I'm content with grinding otherwise I'd not be playing the game in that way still. And sure, it's great to introduce things into the game that expand the number of people it could potentially appeal to. It just sucks that if I want to progress on titles, I have to play an extreme amount of time with one character who is of one profession.

Bryant Again · Apr 28, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

Never said they were there just for looks. The devs said it won't be anything that grants advatages over other players. I believe them over Toxage, tbh I'd believe anyone over Toxage :x

I wouldn't trust people who edit Wikis just to be right, either.

Knightfall: it sounds like you want us to be wrong just so that we *are* wrong. You do not seem to fathom about how bad of an idea it would be to grant long time GW1 players a bonus. I was never given a "bonus" in Super Mario Galaxy just because I beat Super Mario Sunshine a billion times.

Granted, yes. There will be lots of "crying", but not only from the forumgoers here, but from annoyed people who are newcomers and that recently purchased GW2.

HuntMaster Avatar · Apr 28, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Being a Diablo 2 LOD veteran of 6 years I find grinding no big deal since D2lod is nothing but one long grind. I'v killed those bosses so many times it cant be counted. Guildwars grind titles atleast keep players actively doing something.

What if there was NO grinding at all? You would beat the game, and then have nothing left to do. atleast this way, you can do everything on a character, then if you still enjoy the game, repeat it with other characters. Grinding also gives you a reason to repeatedly kill monsters, which drop loot, which you sell, which gives you gold. So by the time you grind the title you've made a nice amount of plat to buy something worth while. So grinding is actually quite nice.

And this way you get a title for farming.

It could be worse. Alot worse. they could up the point values of each title by 100,000, or even into the millions. And it doesnt take that long to grind away titles.

Besides, I'v never heard someone say. "i cant pvp or gvg because I havnt finished grinding yet. This title is keeping me from getting that uber weapon to beat all weapons. I had to spend an extra 100k on that item because I didnt have this title."

Grinding is a minor issue. Loot scaling and heroes/henchies getting drops is a bigger issue than grinding IMO.

The last Rank of the Kind of a big deal title should be MC GrindMaster.

Darksun · Apr 28, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang

Yep.... all Grind nowadays.

No one could have actually played any other mmo and say this with a strait face.

ogre_jd · Apr 28, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

But you do need titles to be in PUGs, oui?

Non. Maybe those PUGs that constantly spam Local and abuse the Party Search by checking & unchecking the Seek Party box over and over, but despite their volume, they're not the be-all and end-all of PUGging.

Bryant Again · Apr 28, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by Darksun

No one could have actually played any other mmo and say this with a strait face.

Wouldn't make much sense to have grind in a f2p game, though - granted, none of it is essential, so GW is exempt from this.

Ogre: I explained that post much further up, it wasn't a very great example to put.

Malice Black · Apr 28, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by Darksun

No one could have actually played any other mmo and say this with a strait face.

GW is free, so they'll continue t moan/bitch, but they'll still play no matter what.

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 28, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

once you've done all the campaigns then yes it becomes a grind fest

be it titles or money you'll be grinding for it

BlackSephir · Apr 28, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

It was cool at first. I could laugh at other MMOs point at them and say "world of farmcraft/grindage lawl".
Now if I said that I'd be just a hypocrite

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I'm with Toxage

Because you both fail just as hard, ffs. That guy tried to troll JR by editing GW2 info on wiki and spills even more bs.

Toxage · Apr 28, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

GW is free, so they'll continue t moan/bitch, but they'll still play no matter what.

Because Arena Net sucks, they have no clue what their doing, sometimes I wonder if they even play their own game. Izzy nerfs random skills. Gaile talks about things she can't comprehend. Ragina doesn't even post, what is she there for? If Arena Net would just add the things I suggested Guild wars would be 5 times better minimum.